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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 11:33:00 -
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Here's the idea:
Each race has a bonus. This bonus applies to your ship, regardless of what ship you fly. You get the same bonus whether you're an Amarrian flying an Amarrian ship, or an Amarrian flying a Minmatar ship.
Possible bonuses might be:
Amarr: +10% Armor HP
Caldari: +10% Optimal Range and Missile Flight Time
Gallente: +10% Number of Drones Controllable (rounded up)
Minmatar: +10% Maximum Ship Velocity.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 11:37:00 -
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NO! It's NOT the same thing, if you read that thread you would see why I posted THIS one. They're discussing bonuses/penalties related to which ship you fly, I'm talking about bonuses that you get on any ship, based only on your own race.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 11:38:00 -
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Thank you, that's much more constructive.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 11:53:00 -
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 Originally by: HippoKing
rail using caldari [...] get screwed
QFT
Seriously, people like to pretend railguns don't exist or something. Anybody notice that 150mm II's are one of NAGA's best-selling items?
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 12:25:37
Originally by: Ithildin
Actually, I pretend blasters don't exist and that Railguns are Gallente's primary weapon. I get a lot of flak for it from Eyeshadow, but he's in agreement that Railguns are awesome (during his weak moments).
I don't think Gallenteans should be allowed to use our railguns until they officially admit that we are completely superior to them.
Oh and on a slightly nitpicky note, in ENGLISH, the plural of bonus is actually bonuses. However, if you prefer to use the Latin form (which I completely sympathize with) the plural would be bonii.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: TheDeceit
Limitations are bad
Not reading the OP is bad.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: TheDeceit
[You're saying give bonuses to flying a certain races' ship.
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
This bonus applies to your ship, regardless of what ship you fly. You get the same bonus whether you're an Amarrian flying an Amarrian ship, or an Amarrian flying a Minmatar ship.
Not reading the OP is bad.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Raem Civrie
the Minmatar Neural Expander
TheDeceit needs that one. 
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Posted - 2006.01.09 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 13:49:06
Originally by: Fester Addams
Also your sugested advantages would be really unfair to Caldari and Gallente as the Amarrian and Minmatar ones would always be usefull nomatter what ship you hopped into but be a Caldari and hop into a ship with no launcher slots... or a Gallente and jump into a ship with 0m3 dronebay...
The Caldari one works because it gives a bonus to weapons range regardless of whether the ship has missiles or turrets.
The Gallente one might not be the best idea, though. It was only an example, but on second thought, I can change it to be better within the racial guidlines.
EDIT: Fixed them.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
How about a different atribute point to each race ?
+1 Intelligence for Caldari
+1 Memory for Minmatar
+1 Perception for Gallente
+1 Willpower for Amarr
Something like that..
Are you kidding?
It would be:
Amarr - Memory
Caldari - Perception
Gallente - Charisma (or we might take pity on them and give them intelligence because Charisma is so useless)
Minmatar - Willpower
Besides, each bloodline ALREADY has it's own base attributes, this isn't anything new.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 22:01:20
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 13:49:28
Here's the idea:
Each race has a bonus. This bonus applies to your ship, regardless of what ship you fly. You get the same bonus whether you're an Amarrian flying an Amarrian ship, or an Amarrian flying a Minmatar ship.
Possible bonuses might be:
Amarr: +10% Maximum Capacitor Capacity
Caldari: +10% Turret Optimal Range and Missile Flight Time
Gallente: +10% Armor HP
Minmatar: +10% Maximum Ship Velocity.
EDIT: Adjusted the bonuses.
You ninja'd my idea...
Everybody refused to discuss it in that thread, to I reposted it in a second thread.
Some people like TheDeceit STILL insisted on discussing the other idea, even in this thread, but mostly people are discussing your idea in here.
EDIT: Holy crap I just realized I COMPLETELY forgot to give you credit in the OP. Gotta fix that 
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Well.. ok
IF
you give us a chance to change.
Sure, why not?
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: ParMizaN
you give us a chance to change. Altering base stats like that shafts all older players :\
Kinda like how new players can't ever catch up to an old player's Skill points?
That's sorta the benefit of being an older player.
Admittedly, I hate all of you to death and beyond for getting here before me, but that doesn't mean you should lose your SP advantages.
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Fooball
If you want to fly the ships of the other races you have to already pay the price for that luxury - you have to train the skills. Why make that price higher? Is there anything winnable by creating a stronger lock-in to the specific ships?
For the third time, NOT READING THE OP IS BAD! Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
This bonus applies to your ship, regardless of what ship you fly. You get the same bonus whether you're an Amarrian flying an Amarrian ship, or an Amarrian flying a Minmatar ship.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Artemis
it might be a good idea to apply a racial bonuses when dealing with npc corps or agents. also it would still allow those of one race to be able to utilize other npc's that share a common viewpoint/goal.
<insert NPC name>
gives +2% (insert whatever bonus [standing,reward,transaction fees, agent searches]) to transactions with <insert race or subrace>
it would RP nicely in the fact that i.e. full fledged true amarrians would be more gracious with its own kind firstly.
you could also apply opposite bonuses to rogue npc's (those that turned their back to their own heritage and embraced others)
I like this idea.
Originally by: Gonada
ohh man yet another useless friggin idea by someone who obviously played a dwarf in some game.
for the love of god quit trying to screw with eve. play the game dont like it get lost.
I didn't play a dwarf in some other game, I've never PLAYED any other MMO's. I'm not trying to screw with EVE, and I'm not saying we need to have this. It's just an idea that Malthros Zenobia came up with, and I thought it was very interested, so I thought we should DISCUSS it. Which is what the forums are for. And this isn't an issue of me not liking the game, because I do. I'm just interested in whether people might find it to be an improvement or not.
Originally by: Zolofine
LOVE the idea Nik, but i don't entirely agree with your bonuses... If you give one race 2 bonuses give all 2 bonuses :-P
I assume you're referring to the Caldari bonus. It's not two, it's actually just one bonus: "+10% range bonus" However, EVE mechanics don't allow that, because "range" is calculated differently with turrets and missiles. All of the other three bonuses apply to ALL ships, whereas a turret or missile bonuses apply only to turret ships or missile ships, or apply partially to ships that use both.
Originally by: BrerLapin
Give bonuses based on experience (Would be a problem to implement obviously but..) A Caldari is a Caldari hes gonna be familiar with all Caldari ships regardless fo what he actually flys I mean he grew up with them. So he should have a bonus to hit their weakspots & exploiting their manueverabilty. Say a +2.5% tracking & damage to Caldari ships only ?
Now THAT'S an interesting idea. I'm not sure if I'd support that, but it IS interesting.
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